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For all the non-Zimbabwe games. Series begins tomorrow with the Ireland-England series.

Quick recap:

- 13 team ODI competition of 12 Test nations + winners of the 2017 World Cricket League Championship (Netherlands)

- top 7 sides + hosts (India) will get automatic qualification into 2023 World Cup

- bottom 5 sides will join top 5 Associates in 10-team WC qualifier to be played in 2023

- top 2 teams from WC qualifer to join the 2023 WC in India
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slcricfan1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:41 pm

Cricket has really become competitive in the lower echelons. The Dutch winning so much is particularly suprising since I dont think they`re even that South African dominated


I think the credit has to be with the now defunct World Cricket League system which ran continuously from 2006 to 2017 or so. Teams like Ireland, Afghanistan, Nepal, Scotland, and Netherlands had a formal structure in which to learn, develop their games, and compete with teams at their level. It took time, but I think the fruits are beginning to show.

The new system with League 2 and the Challenge League will achieve the same thing for the next 17 ranked sides (14-30). Its a different format and name, but achieves the exact same thing as the WCL system did before it. Its good thinking from the ICC for once.

Expanding future World Cups to 14 teams will further enhance this. I would say the ICC should give the top 10 ranked sides in the Super League auto qualification, and then have the last 4 spots filled via the WCQ which should be expanded to a 12 or 14 team tournament.
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Guys as it stands there is a very realistic chance of more than 1 team from the top 9 will be forced to play the qualifiers.

Last time it was West Indies but this time it may be 2 or even 3, Afghans have an easy draw and may just sneak into top 8, i dont know but looking at Pakistan losing to an England Reserve side and South Africa losing to Ireland anything is possible. Add to that the genuinely vulnerable teams - Sri Lanka and West Indies.
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Guys as it stands there is a very realistic chance of more than 1 team from the top 9 will be forced to play the qualifiers.

Last time it was West Indies but this time it may be 2 or even 3, Afghans have an easy draw and may just sneak into top 8, i dont know but looking at Pakistan losing to an England Reserve side and South Africa losing to Ireland anything is possible. Add to that the genuinely vulnerable teams - Sri Lanka and West Indies.
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Ireland with a series draw vs SA and 15 points. Pretty decent performance from their POV. Really makes the SL interesting as we're nearing the halfway stage.
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Ireland with a series draw vs SA and 15 points. Pretty decent performance from their POV. Really makes the SL interesting as we're nearing the halfway stage.
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Zimbabwe desperately need some points. The 9 ODIs against Ireland, Netherlands, and a totally out of form Sri Lanka will be absolutely vital for them.

They've got 3 against Afghans, but Afghans have got their number, so I'm not having big hopes on that.

India and Australia they don't stand a chance.
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Zimbabwe desperately need some points. The 9 ODIs against Ireland, Netherlands, and a totally out of form Sri Lanka will be absolutely vital for them.

They've got 3 against Afghans, but Afghans have got their number, so I'm not having big hopes on that.

India and Australia they don't stand a chance.
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:36 pm

Zimbabwe desperately need some points. The 9 ODIs against Ireland, Netherlands, and a totally out of form Sri Lanka will be absolutely vital for them.

They've got 3 against Afghans, but Afghans have got their number, so I'm not having big hopes on that.

India and Australia they don't stand a chance.


Finishing in the top 8 and outright qualification is probably off the table (albeit still lots of series to play). Realistically ZIM can expect to get 15 points in Ireland (1-1 draw with the guaranteed washout per series), 10-20 points from Netherlands, and another 10-20 from SL and 10 from Afghanistan. So thats a total of 45-65 points from 12 games.
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I don't know if all the scheduled series will go ahead, at the moment Netherlands and Afghanistan have played only 3 games and do not have any scheduled fixtures this year (I know Afg-Zim is scheduled but who knows what the situation in Afghanistan will be like) . Basically we are looking at them playing 21 ODIs each in about 12-14 months. That's unlikely.
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Again Pakistan v West Indies series is in doubt due to COVID cases in West Indies camp.

It is a waste following the ODI Super league now, I don't think it will go through and it will come down to rankings as usual.

Zimbabwe need to be careful here, they are 14th in ODIs.. Need to pull off some wins and climb up that ladder.
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They will probably do % points like the WTC. It doesn't really matter though, because there is no Super League after this so no chance of being relegated for finishing last place.
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Going by the way Pakistan are getting thrashed by an Australia C team, and remember they lost to an England C team last year, I think we have an interesting situation here.

Sri Lanka, Pakistan, West Indies, South Africa - at the moment these are the 4 'top' nations, who find themselves at serious risk of playing the Qualifier.

What this means is that Zimbabwe, Ireland, Afghanistan, may be even Netherlands, if they can find some lucky wins there is every chance one they can find themselves directly qualifying for the World Cup.

Afghanistan, I'm very sure, will end up qualifying directly.

Ireland may have played 18 games but they've got some points in the bag, 3 wins of their next 6, somehow punching above their weight, will give them an outside chance.

Zimbabwe, still looks difficult, but not completely out of reach, they have 12 games remaining, 6 of which are against Afghans and Netherlands, and India / Aus will field weak squads... So who knows folks. Its quite wide open as of now.
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Incredible win for Pakistan the other day. I must say I spoke too early regarding them. Excellent innings by Imam and Babar, 1-1 with all to play for in the decider.
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Afghanistan are qualifying directly for sure. So what are we looking at, which 5 teams will go to the qualifiers.

Zimbabwe almost certainly, pains me to say this but it is what it is. Netherlands almost certainly.

I think Ireland will also miss out. South Africa are in real danger, Sri Lanka are in real danger too.

If Pakistan manage to whitewash the windies then they are safe and windies also get into risky zone.

I'm thinking we are looking at

Netherlands

Zimbabwe

Ireland

Sri Lanka

West Indies / South Africa.
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We really needed the Netherlands to pick up 10 or 20 points from the Windies to help our chances of qualification.

We are finished now. We probably need 6 more wins, or 5 wins with other results in our favour. Not going to happen. 😂
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Afghanistan qualifying directly means terrible news for WI, SLN and RSA, I think Pakistan are looking more and more safe now.

It also means better news for Zim, Ire and Netherlands, because all these three teams somehow couldn't get one over tha Afghans but all three would feel that on a given day they can put one over SLN or WI, like we saw Ireland winning the ODI series against WI and Zimbabwe pulling off that 2nd ODI against SLN.
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NZL clashing against Ireland today in what is a very important series for the Irish. They are still very much in contention for a direct WC but a whitewash here will almost certainly knock them out as well. Should they win the series though then we are looking at a crazy WCQ.
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:44 am

NZL clashing against Ireland today in what is a very important series for the Irish. They are still very much in contention for a direct WC but a whitewash here will almost certainly knock them out as well. Should they win the series though then we are looking at a crazy WCQ.


Ireland look far better than Zim. This dude Tector is properly good. Put in Stirling and Balbirnie and woah they are tough to beat at home at least.

Also please just call SlN and NZL SL and NZ respectively lmao. The L is redundant in both
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slcricfan1 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:24 pm


sam_ahm wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:44 am

NZL clashing against Ireland today in what is a very important series for the Irish. They are still very much in contention for a direct WC but a whitewash here will almost certainly knock them out as well. Should they win the series though then we are looking at a crazy WCQ.


Ireland look far better than Zim. This dude Tector is properly good. Put in Stirling and Balbirnie and woah they are tough to beat at home at least.

Also please just call SlN and NZL SL and NZ respectively lmao. The L is redundant in both


😁 I have this tendency to use 3 letters for every team.

Yes, Ireland are good, unbelievable heartbreak for them today. Bracewell played one if the best ODI innings of all time. That was a win out of nowhere. Unbelievable runchase.
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:35 pm


slcricfan1 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:24 pm


sam_ahm wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:44 am

NZL clashing against Ireland today in what is a very important series for the Irish. They are still very much in contention for a direct WC but a whitewash here will almost certainly knock them out as well. Should they win the series though then we are looking at a crazy WCQ.


Ireland look far better than Zim. This dude Tector is properly good. Put in Stirling and Balbirnie and woah they are tough to beat at home at least.

Also please just call SlN and NZL SL and NZ respectively lmao. The L is redundant in both


😁 I have this tendency to use 3 letters for every team.

Yes, Ireland are good, unbelievable heartbreak for them today. Bracewell played one if the best ODI innings of all time. That was a win out of nowhere. Unbelievable runchase.


Sad. SHoudlve won that
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