2021 T20 World Cup

There are no clear favourites, obviously if there has to be one then it is India. I don't know who else???

We have seen English players like Livingstone, Morgan struggling big time on sluggish UAE wickets, none of the other foreign players have done anything significant in the IPL at least with the bat, again this tells me that non-subcontinent teams will be at a significant disadvantage.

Sri Lanka are not doing good and Afghanistan are not yet a championship winning team to add to that they are going through a difficult time in their country as well as in their cricket board, so this leaves us with Pakistan and Bangladesh amongst the other aubcontinent nations that are likely to do well. The problem for Bangladesh will be that they will win 1st round group and make it to Group B along with India and Pakistan so this is a really really tough group.

If I were to suggest Bangladesh, I would deliberately want to finish 2nd in 1st round to avoid Group B and be placed in Group A for better chances of making it to the semis.

My Semi final picks:

India

Pakistan

West Indies

South Africa

^ South Africa is a brave and I'd say quite left-field call to make the semi's. On what basis? I think they'll be doing well to finish in the top 7 or 8 tbh.

For my predictions I'll plump for a comfortable India win. Windies, England & NZ as semi-finalists. Namibia will get in the Super 12s and a win or two over a big full member whilst they are there.

secretzimbo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:14 am

^ South Africa is a brave and I'd say quite left-field call to make the semi's. On what basis? I think they'll be doing well to finish in the top 7 or 8 tbh.

For my predictions I'll plump for a comfortable India win. Windies, England & NZ as semi-finalists. Namibia will get in the Super 12s and a win or two over a big full member whilst they are there.

Cricinfo's preview seems to suggest Namibia are the weakest of the Associates at this WC. They might win a game in the prelim round, but a) they have maybe a 33% shot at making the Super 12s, and that is probably being generous and b) if they make the Super 12s, they have exactly 0% chance of beating any teams there.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/t20- ... nd-1278805

Why not just say India will win the WC, if they play their absolute best and can manage to somehow get past Namibia (who will have to make some mistakes for Kohli's boys to have a realistic chance)?

Yes because ESPNCricinfo have such an excellent track record of analysing associate cricket dont they.

😂

Why can’t half the global cricketing community form an opinion different to what is published on cricinfo as if it is the New Testament itself? Or at least tolerate someone’s opinion and *prediction* (Google the definition of prediction) based on watching a team or a player over several years?

Pet hate of mine regarding some cricket fans.

Praise be to the almighty cricketing god of cricinfo

Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:42 pm

They might win a game in the prelim round, but a) they have maybe a 33% shot at making the Super 12s, and that is probably being generous and b) if they make the Super 12s, they have exactly 0% chance of beating any teams there.

Nonsense of the highest order. Exceptional!

Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:42 pm

secretzimbo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:14 am

^ South Africa is a brave and I'd say quite left-field call to make the semi's. On what basis? I think they'll be doing well to finish in the top 7 or 8 tbh.

For my predictions I'll plump for a comfortable India win. Windies, England & NZ as semi-finalists. Namibia will get in the Super 12s and a win or two over a big full member whilst they are there.

Cricinfo's preview seems to suggest Namibia are the weakest of the Associates at this WC. They might win a game in the prelim round, but a) they have maybe a 33% shot at making the Super 12s, and that is probably being generous and b) if they make the Super 12s, they have exactly 0% chance of beating any teams there.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/t20- ... nd-1278805

Why not just say India will win the WC, if they play their absolute best and can manage to somehow get past Namibia (who will have to make some mistakes for Kohli's boys to have a realistic chance)?

I wonder if they predicted Hong Kong would beat a certain team in 2014?

Sorry for the painful reminder. If it's any comfort Munir Dar (remember the name?) is a friendly chap - had the pleasure of meeting him briefly and shaking his hand when he came to HKCC to play a game in 2015.

secretzimbo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:56 pm

Yes because ESPNCricinfo have such an excellent track record of analysing associate cricket dont they.

😂

Why can’t half the global cricketing community form an opinion different to what is published on cricinfo as if it is the New Testament itself? Or at least tolerate someone’s opinion and *prediction* (Google the definition of prediction) based on watching a team or a player over several years?

Pet hate of mine regarding some cricket fans.

Praise be to the almighty cricketing god of cricinfo

Peter Della Penna covers Associate cricket and seems to know quite a lot about a lot of the teams. He reckons Oman are leading associate in this WC. IDK about that but I would imagine the strongest contenders will end up being Ireland, Netherlands, and Scotland.

secretzimbo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:56 pm

I will be surprised if Ireland win a single game tbh. Group of death and on paper they are the weakest of the 4.

My predictions would be;

Group A

1 Sri Lanka

2 Namibia

3 Netherlands

4 Ireland

Group B

1 Scotland

2 Bangladesh

3 Oman

4 PNG

(I put Bangladesh lower solely to annoy Kriterion tbh :D . They'll almost certainly win the group lol :W: )

As you say though these teams are always unpredictable. There's not a huge difference between any of them and I include SL & Ban in that. Hard to know how the associates will deal with conditions too. I wonder if we will see relatively low-scoring pitches like we have in the IPL?

Out of these 8 teams, Bangladesh are probably the only ones that are clearly better than the rest. On current form at least. May be controversial to say, but I'd even rate BD ahead of the Afghans given that we are 4-0 against them in ICC events (3-0 in ODIs, 1-0 in T20). For some reason, they beat us in bilaterals, but in WCs we beat them regardless of the conditions. Even if this WC was played in England or Australian conditions, anyone would have to agree just based on the experience factor. Bangladesh are the side that should win a game or two in the Super 12 stages. Can't see any of the other 7 sides, Namibia included, winning in the main round, except perhaps against Afghanistan. Sri Lanka are a wild card, they have a few talented players, but just can't seem to be consistent.

My predictions:

SL > NED = IRE > NAM

BD > SCO > OMN > PNG

Also, I think the pitches will be in the 150-170 range. Neither low scoring, nor belters where it will be raining 6s and 4s. Thats for the Super 12 stage. In the first round average scores could well be lower but thats because Oman, PNG, Namibia could all be expected to be bundled out for under 100 runs in any given game.

I will cover my ass, and say I wouldn't be surprised to see one upset, but its hard to see Sri Lanka or Bangladesh losing to an associate in Asian conditions. But NED and SCO and IRE shouldn't be taken lightly, and could theoretically beat SL or BD on a good day.

secretzimbo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:56 pm

I will be surprised if Ireland win a single game tbh. Group of death and on paper they are the weakest of the 4.

My predictions would be;

Group A

1 Sri Lanka

2 Namibia

3 Netherlands

4 Ireland

Group B

1 Scotland

2 Bangladesh

3 Oman

4 PNG

(I put Bangladesh lower solely to annoy Kriterion tbh :D . They'll almost certainly win the group lol :W: )

As you say though these teams are always unpredictable. There's not a huge difference between any of them and I include SL & Ban in that. Hard to know how the associates will deal with conditions too. I wonder if we will see relatively low-scoring pitches like we have in the IPL?

Out of these 8 teams, Bangladesh are probably the only ones that are clearly better than the rest. On current form at least. May be controversial to say, but I'd even rate BD ahead of the Afghans given that we are 4-0 against them in ICC events (3-0 in ODIs, 1-0 in T20). For some reason, they beat us in bilaterals, but in WCs we beat them regardless of the conditions. Even if this WC was played in England or Australian conditions, anyone would have to agree just based on the experience factor. Bangladesh are the side that should win a game or two in the Super 12 stages. Can't see any of the other 7 sides, Namibia included, winning in the main round, except perhaps against Afghanistan. Sri Lanka are a wild card, they have a few talented players, but just can't seem to be consistent.

My predictions:

SL > NED = IRE > NAM

BD > SCO > OMN > PNG

Also, I think the pitches will be in the 150-170 range. Neither low scoring, nor belters where it will be raining 6s and 4s. Thats for the Super 12 stage. In the first round average scores could well be lower but thats because Oman, PNG, Namibia could all be expected to be bundled out for under 100 runs in any given game.

I will cover my ass, and say I wouldn't be surprised to see one upset, but its hard to see Sri Lanka or Bangladesh losing to an associate in Asian conditions. But NED and SCO and IRE shouldn't be taken lightly, and could theoretically beat SL or BD on a good day.

secretzimbo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:56 pm

My predictions would be;

Group A

1 Sri Lanka

2 Namibia

3 Netherlands

4 Ireland

Group B

1 Scotland

2 Bangladesh

3 Oman

4 PNG

Well, I did predict.......

Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:23 pm

Out of these 8 teams, Bangladesh are probably the only ones that are clearly better than the rest.

but its hard to see Sri Lanka or Bangladesh losing to an associate in Asian conditions.

:oops: :W:

Wow! Well played Scotland. Brilliant stuff.

How much have the associates improved. This is heartening to see. Bangladesh of all teams should know the associate teams better (than the rest), they've been in for a rude shock today.

In all fairness Bangladesh in these conditions are a good team, they just ran in to a spirited Scotland side.

Come on boys, more wins for the Associates and Ireland. Go boys!!!

secretzimbo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:55 pm

secretzimbo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:56 pm

My predictions would be;

Group A

1 Sri Lanka

2 Namibia

3 Netherlands

4 Ireland

Group B

1 Scotland

2 Bangladesh

3 Oman

4 PNG

Well, I did predict.......

Final group standings could change yet based on NRR.

Poor show from BD overall with both bat and bowl.

I'm certain that Bangladesh can cause some serious damage if they get into that ENG-Aus-RSA-WI group.

Yesterday's loss could be a good thing for Ban as long as they don't lose to Oman, which they won't. Srl might also join the same group 😂. All hell will break loose.

Absolutely awful toss to lose for my Namibian boys! Hopefully they still go well though